Autor: Lonergan, Bernard J.F.

Buch: The Trinune God: Systematics

Titel: The Triune God: Systematics

Stichwort: Trinität: göttliche Personen - Ich und Du?; das Wort: in Bezug auf den Vater - durch das Wort auf alles Verstandene (Schöpfung ...)

Kurzinhalt: QUESTION 20 - Do the divine persons say to one another 'I' and 'You'? ...
Therefore, all that can be signified through the pronouns 'I' and 'you' are spoken by the Father through the Word; ...

Textausschnitt: 397c Our answer is that within God, just as only one person is generating, so only one is speaking. For as the one generating stands to the Son, so the one speaking stands to the Word; and just as the same property is signified by 'Word' as by 'Son,' so the same property is signified by 'speaking' as by 'generating.' Therefore, within God no one speaks except the Father. (Fs)

397d That which is spoken, however, can be taken in two ways: according to the relation to the one speaking, and then the Word is spoken; and according to the relation to objects that are known, and in this latter way, as the Father speaks from his understanding of God and of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and of all created things and of all possible beings, so through the Word are spoken God and Father and Son and Spirit and all created things and all possible beings.1 Therefore, all that can be signified through the pronouns 'I' and 'you' are spoken by the Father through the Word; but within God no material sounds are heard, nor are there many distinct concepts, but one alone who is the Word. (Fs; s. Fußnote LBTS_217b)

399a Externally to God, however, nothing prevents the occurrence of an utterance that proceeds from the divine will, whether it be one in which the incarnate Word says, 'As you, Father, are in me and I am in you,'2 or one that states that 'God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!'"3 But within God there is nothing that proceeds from an act of the divine will as from a really distinct principle.4

399b Finally, since these pronouns, 'I' and 'you,' in a certain metaphorical way signify the most perfect interpersonal relationships, what follows below will make sufficiently clear what must be said about such relationships within God. (Fs)