Autor: Lonergan, Bernard J.F.

Buch: The Trinune God: Systematics

Titel: The Triune God: Systematics

Stichwort: Das distinkt Subsistente -> Suppositum; drei Supponierende in Gott

Kurzinhalt: QUESTION 12 -- How many are there that subsist in God?; But in God there are three and only three supposits. Therefore, the answer to this question is that in God there are three that subsist.

Textausschnitt: QUESTION 12 -- How many are there that subsist in God?

331c A subsistent is the same as a being in the strict sense, or that which is, or that which is found at such an ontological level that it is more perfect than a constitutive principle of being, or an accident, or a possible being, or a conceptual being. (Fs)

331d However, since we are asking how many there are that subsist, we implicitly add another formality to that of subsistent, for we number only what are distinct from one another. Hence to ask how many distinct subsistents there are is the same as asking how many subsistents there are. (Fs)

331d Now a distinct subsistent is a supposit.1 But in God there are three and only three supposits. Therefore, the answer to this question is that in God there are three that subsist. (Fs)

333a If one objects that God subsists, we answer that we do not in the least deny this. For although God does subsist, God does not subsist as a fourth over and above the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, since God is not really distinct from these three. (Fs)
If one objects that God is conceptually distinct from the persons, our answer is that conceptual distinctions are grounds for numbering not what are in God but what are in our minds. (Fs)

If one objects that in God there is only one subsistent act of existence, one act of subsisting, one principle of subsisting, we fully agree. For according to the mode of signifying, these refer not to that which is but to that by which something is. Clearly, then, they regard not the divine persons but the common substance. (Fs) (notabene)

333b If one objects that the relations do not add any further act of subsisting to subsistent existence itself and therefore cannot bring it about that there be three subsistents, our answer is that the objection contains a false supposition, namely, that the relations really add something to subsistent existence itself and enter into composition with it. But in fact the relations are the same as subsistent existence itself, and, since they are the same, they likewise subsist. But if the three relations really distinct from one another subsist, there are in God three that subsist. (Fs)